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Anthology Set Preview und Textänderungen

Post by Serazahr » 03 Apr 2017, 16:01

http://www.vekn.net/card-lists/370-anthology
Official release: May 11, 2017

Legal for Tournament Play: May 11, 2017



Welcome to the first week of previews of the Anthology set! We'll take the opportunity each week to present you new cards as well as a few changes.

The set contains 48 crypt cards (including 10 new cards) and 52 library cards (including 2 new cards).



PREVIEWS



Eyes of Argus Hamid Mansour Laura Goldman


RULES UPDATE
First of all, in order to revive the game on a sound basis, White Wolf had to change two major features of VTES:
1/ Cards backs changes
The back of the cards will no longer have the Deckmaster logo. We have already experienced this kind of change, first when the Jyhad logo was changed to V:TES, then when the card backs were printed upside-down in Third Edition.

The tournament rule 4.1 Cards Allowed has been changed accordingly (changes in red).
If cards with distinct backs are used in the same deck (e.g., Jyhad and Vampire: The Eternal Struggle cards, or upside-down 3rd Edition cards and right-side up cards, or mis-cut cards, or cards without the deckmaster logo) are used, in order to prevent a significant advantage, all cards from the different sets, printings, etc. must be of sufficiently mixed card type, unless they are all sleeved with opaque sleeves (recommended).


2/ Replacement of the tap/untap keywords by lock/unlock
The tap/untap keywords could no longer be used and had to be changed. It was a tough and very inconvenient decision, but a necessary one. All the Inner Circle board worked on propositions to replace those keywords, and the final decision was validated by White Wolf.
We had more than 20 options, but in the end we decided that their replacement had to meet the following criteria:
the words had to be regular verbs with a simple past form (like "tapped") and a continuous form (like "tapping")
the words had to be usable transitively (as in "tap this vampire") and intransitively (as in "this vampire taps")
the words had to be usable on minions and non-minions cards
the root word (replacing tap) should ideally be one-syllable long
the opposite word (replacing untap) should ideally be constructed with the un- prefix.
Many interesting proposal finally didn't make the cut (exhaust/refresh, twist/untwist, set/unset, bind/unbind), and a consensus was found with lock/unlock.

The rulebook as well as all card references has been updated this way.

New wording

Wake
Many reaction cards allow vampires to "play reaction cards and attempt to block even though locked until the current action is concluded."
These cards have a special place in the game as they are the only cards that can be played in the "as a card is played" window without that explicit wording (in order to play reaction cards that can be played legitimately in that window). These cards have always been referred to as "wake" cards by players. By adding the "wake" keyword, the effect will be easier to reference and to learn for new players (in order to mark the difference with a real "unlock" effect for instance). As a reminder, the description of the "wake" effect is left between parenthesis on cards such as Eyes of Argus.

Singular "they"
The card texts have often been cluttered with "he or she", "his or her", or "him or her" forms. As well as being inelegant, this reference to gender has nothing to do with game mechanics and doesn't fit the gender-fluid background of the World of Darkness.
Therefore it was decided to enforce the usage of the singular "they". Extra care will be taken during migration of the card texts to avoid any confusion between a plural "they" (that is almost never used in the current card texts) and a singular "they".
Singular "they" is very common in informal English; if you're not familiar with it, you can read some articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

The reprint of Eyes of Argus uses this wording: "Only usable by a locked vampire. This vampire wakes (they can play reaction cards and attempt to block even though locked until the current action is concluded)."

"They" is referring to "This vampire" without any ambiguity.

CHECKLIST (without reprints)
Crypt

Clan

Aisha az-Zahra Toreador
Alabástrom Gargoyle
André the Manipulator Gangrel
Anne-Marie Bourgeois, Inconnu Recruiter Toreador
Apolonia Czarnecki Malkavian
Hamid Mansour Ventrue
Joseph Fischer Gangrel antitribu
Laura Goldman Brujah
Styles Margs Gangrel antitribu
Weirich Waldburg Ventrue

Library

Type

Line, The Master
Vivienne Géroux Ally

A full checklist is available here: https://www.worldofdarkness.berlin/vtes



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Post by Männele » 03 Apr 2017, 19:58

lock/unlock finde ich okay, wenn wir tap nicht mehr nutzen dürfen. Es ist schön zu lesen, dass sich die betreffenden Personen, die das entschieden, gute Gedanken gemacht haben. Ich schätze solche Transparenz.

Wake als Schlüsselwort finde ich auch eine gute Sache.
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Post by Vrumfondel » 03 Apr 2017, 21:05

Ja, gut das die Gemeinschaft so mit einbezogen wird.
Manche Dinge wie andere Rückseiten sind nicht schön aber wohl leider notwendig.

Ich hoffe das they bei manchen Karten nicht zur Verwirrung führt.

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Post by hardyrange » 10 Apr 2017, 13:21

New wording

Attached
By default, a minion card in play is controlled by the controller of the minion it is on (sec. 1.6.3. Minion cards). This leads to two reading perspective for cards that are put on other minions:
first, when the action is announced and during its course, "this minion" refers to the acting minion
then, after the action has been resolved, "this minion" refers to the minion the card is on.
In order not to rely too heavily on the subtleties of the differences between "this acting minion", "that minion" that are confusing for new and old players alike, and to avoid cumbersome formulations such as "the minion with this card", a new keyword "attached" has been added.

Attached: if a card is put on another, both are considered attached to each other.

This keyword is similar to the existing "bearer" (for equipment) or "employer" (for retainers) keywords.

The reprint of Field Training uses this new wording: "Unlock this vampire, choose a Discipline they have at superior and put this card on another ready non-titled vampire you control. The attached vampire is considered anarch (and Independent), and gets +1 level of the chosen Discipline. If the attached vampire changes sect, burn this card. A vampire can have only one Field Training."

"Unlock this vampire" refers to the acting vampire, and "The attached vampire" refers to the vampire the Field Training is put on.

As a last reminder, don't forget that Field Training can be put on a vampire who already has the chosen Discipline at superior (contrary to Discipline cards that usually have a restriction)!

See you next week for more previews!
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Post by cmdrKEEN » 10 Apr 2017, 15:14

weis jemand ob im Zuge dieser Änderung schon diskutiert wurde konsequenter weise auch das Verb mit zu ändern? Also statt: "...and put this card on another ready non-titled vampire..."
"...and attach this card on another ready non-titled vampire..."
und evtl. warum man sich dagegen entschieden hat?
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Post by Männele » 10 Apr 2017, 17:17

"attach to" ... nicht "on"?

Aber ja, gute Frage. K.A., aber evtl. wollte man nicht zu viel ändern.
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Post by hardyrange » 10 Apr 2017, 20:23

cmdrKEEN wrote:weis jemand ob im Zuge dieser Änderung schon diskutiert wurde konsequenter weise auch das Verb mit zu ändern? Also statt: "...and put this card on another ready non-titled vampire..."
"...and attach this card on another ready non-titled vampire..."
und evtl. warum man sich dagegen entschieden hat?
Ja. Siehe hier:
http://www.vekn.net/forum/news-and-anno ... s-april-10
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Post by hardyrange » 10 Apr 2017, 20:32

Aus einer anderen Diskussion (http://www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questio ... y-it/81409), in der die Sprache unter anderem auf die Liste der offiziellen Karten-Texte kam (http://www.vekn.net/images/stories/down ... rdlist.txt):
Ankha wrote:There's a "living" CSV that gets updated from times to times, but the official cardtext is the one I linked, and it changes rarely (though there's a big update coming).
(Hervorhebung von mir.)

Das war angesichts der Änderungen in den regeln und Begriffen ja zu erwarten....
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Post by cmdrKEEN » 10 Apr 2017, 23:40

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Post by hardyrange » 12 Apr 2017, 10:16

http://www.vekn.net/forum/news-and-anno ... l-10/81443
Damnans wrote:
ReverendRevolver wrote: Will we be seeing new art on WWccp/wotc reprinted cards?
Yes. There will be new art on some of the reprinted cards in the Anthology set.
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Post by hardyrange » 12 Apr 2017, 11:23

Ich finde, das Ganze läuft sehr professionell:
Die bekannten Copyright-Probleme mit dem Deckmaster-Symbol und dem Wort "tap" werden gelöst.
Anscheinend gibt es zum Teil auch neues Artwork - auch hier war in früheren Diskussionen angedeutet worden, dass WW nicht mehr alle Rechte an den Bildern hat.
Und das Rules Team hat die Gelegenheit, einmal einige wahrscheinlich schon lange geplante Änderungen umzusetzen ("wake" und "attached" als neue Schlüsselwörter machen für mich Sinn).

Sogar bei mir regt sich Hoffnung, dass wir vielleicht mit dem Anthology-Set nur den Anfang sehen. :shock:
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Post by Männele » 12 Apr 2017, 22:26

hardyrange wrote: Sogar bei mir regt sich Hoffnung, dass wir vielleicht mit dem Anthology-Set nur den Anfang sehen. :shock:
Bei mir auch und ich freue mich einfach.
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Post by hardyrange » 17 Apr 2017, 20:58

http://www.vekn.net/card-lists/370-anthology
Clarification

All cards that are played after the resolution of an action (either successful or unsuccessful) have had their text clarified. The timing is now explicitely given, whereas previously it was left in a grey zone ("at the end of the action" that could happen before the action continues, or "when something happens" that occurs sometimes before or after the event). The text of Enkil Cog was typically describing the same timing window with two different terms ("when" and "after resolution"), due to older wordings that had been accumulated through the years without any massive cleanup. The rule team is aiming to remove as much unneccessary text as possible, and clarify the card texts with new, consistent wordings.

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Post by hardyrange » 24 Apr 2017, 19:37

http://www.vekn.net/card-lists/370-anthology

Diese Woche "nur" Previews für drei Karten - keine weiteren Regel- oder Textänderungen....
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