Powerbase Montreal + Imbued

[ghost of extrala]

Hier eine Rückversicherungsfrage Ich nehme mal an, dass man die Powerbase Montreal nicht benutzen kann, um Pool aus der Bloodbank auf einen Imbued zu packen, da ich weiss, da ein Imbued liegt, und deshalb der explizite Cardtext der PB:Montreal zählt; siehe auch Auszug aus den Imbued-Regeln:

In general, if you (the Methuselah playing the card or activating the effect) can look at the crypt card (e.g., because it is in your uncontrolled region or in any ash heap or in play, or if you're "searching" your crypt), then the target crypt card must match the parameters given by the effect. This usually means that imbued cannot be targets of these effects.

Powerbase: Montreal
Cardtype: Master
Master: unique location.
During your influence phase, you may move 1 blood from the blood bank to a vampire in your uncontrolled region. Any vampire may steal this location for his or her controller as a (D) action.

Correct?

[eBarbarossa]

Solange sie nicht überarbeitet wird ist das korrekt.

[JoMuc]

ich denke allerdings, dass das schon bewusst so gemacht wurde und so bleiben wird, oder?
the church of vindicated faith z.B. gibt ja auch nicht grundlos nur die möglichkeit auf einen imbued in der uncontrolled region einen pool zu packen und verweist eben direkt auf imbued, wie die powerbase wiederum auf vampire.

[M@rc00_L]

In earlier sets, card effects that deal with crypt cards have generally assumed that crypt cards were all vampires. Now that this is no longer true, some questions arise.

In general, if you (the Methuselah playing the card or activating the effect) can look at the crypt card (e.g., because it is in your uncontrolled region or in any ash heap or in play, or if you're "searching" your crypt), then the target crypt card must match the parameters given by the effect. This usually means that imbued cannot be targets of these effects.

If you target a crypt card "blind" (either an unseen card from the crypt or an unseen card in some other Methuselah's uncontrolled region), then work with whatever you find. If the effect only checks/compares the card's "capacity", then treat the imbued's cost (starting life) as its capacity for that comparision.

Those two guidelines should clear up all the ways of interacting with imbued who aren't in play. But for clarity, individual cases are shown below.

The following effects are imbued-compatible:
Bear-Baiting (checking cost as capacity from crypt OK).
Brainwash (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK).
Cairo Int'l Airport (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK).
Clotho's Gift at [obf] (moving card from crypt OK).
Effective Management (moving card from crypt OK).
Gemini (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK).
Gisela Harden (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK).
Goodnight, Sweet Prince (moving card from crypt OK).
Innocent Bystander (removing card from crypt OK).
Kindred Intelligence (moving card from crypt OK).
Lázár Dobrescu (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK, but the recipient must be a vampire).
Memory's Fading Glimpse (moving unknown uncontrolled card OK).
Petra's Resonance (checking cost as capacity from crypt OK).
The Portrait (checking cost as capacity from crypt OK).
San Lorenzo de El Escorial (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK).
The Soul Gem of Etrius (can retrieve an imbued, and will even put him in play if he's smaller than the bearer, but he gets no blood or life).
The Trick of the Danya (targeting unknown uncontrolled card OK, but the recipient must be a vampire).

The following effects are not imbued-compatible:
Chain of Command (cannot put imbued into play)
Clotho's Gift at [tem] (cannot target imbued in uncontrolled region)
Dreams of the Sphinx (cannot move blood to imbued in uncontrolled region)
Illusions of the Kindred (if the bottom card is an imbued, no new combat begins and the imbued is removed from play)
Might of the Camarilla (won't force a Methuselah to burn an uncontrolled imbued)
Recruitment (search as indicated: vampire)

Note: Heaven's Gate text applies in full -- an imbued can be moved to the uncontrolled region, controlled but not ready, and will eventually be moved to the ready region just as a "normal" ally would be.

Im Klartext: die PB zielt auf eine dir bekannte Karte in der Uncontrolled, deshalb darfst du keinen Imbued auswählen.

Ich habe mir zufällig vor ein paar Wochen mal die Imbued Rules durchgelesen; und am Dienstag hatten wir auch eine PB: Montreal beim Imbued Spieler (auch wenn nur unter den Erciyes Fragments); da hatte ich das auch erwähnt.

[Johannes]

Klar checkt man die requirements für Karten in der uncontrolled.
Siehe Govern the Unaligned.