Orun gilt auch für Karten, die im Spiel sind, und nicht nur während sie gespielt werden.
Sogar für Karten, die gespielt wurden, bevor Orun im Spiel war!
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/r ... ft6gDzxmsJ
Und, in Bezug auf diese Post, eine weitere mit mehreren konkreten Beispielen, darunter auch Aranthebes (also genau wie in unserem Spiel):LSJ wrote:Jozxyqk wrote:
> sath...@o2.pl wrote:
> "cards played by Methuselahs other than this Laibon's controller"
> Please confirm, LSJ, that this means cards which were *ever* played by
> another Methuselah, not just "as-played".
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... EIoqkTROIJ
LSJ wrote:floppyzedolfin wrote:
> Today's questions are about Orun.
> I'll focus on the second sentence of the card: "For non-Orun cards
> played by Methuselahs other than this Laibon's controller, this Laibon
> is considered to have 2 additional capacity.".
> 1/ Does this effect stack if I control mutliple Oruns on a vampire ?
> Example: Other Meths have played nothing yet. I control Nana Buruku (8-
> cap) with 2 Oruns. My predator plays Golconda: Inner Peace on Nana. I
> decide not to pay 2 pool. Which one is it: I gain 10 pool, or I gain
> 12 pool ?
Google: "Orun stack author:LSJ"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 11e4779b0b
> 2/ In this topic http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 00eaed47f8
> you explain that Orun keeps track of all cards *ever* played. Little
> question about the *ever*: Does the Orun "remember" of cards that got
> played before it was played ?
What else could "ever" mean?
Anyway, the cards in play before Orun is played still know who played them.
> Example1: My prey played Aranthebes with his vampire right before I
> play Orun on my 4-cap vampire. The only played cards in the game so
> far are my prey's vampire, his Aranthebes, my vampire and my Orun. Can
> my 4-cap vampire reshuffle Aranthebes in my prey's library?
That's in the link you gave: yes.
> Example2: Giant's Blood was played before I played my Orun. The game
> keeps track of it, but does that aknowledge my Orun somehow ?
From which effect of the in-ash-heap Giant's Blood are you looking for
> 3/ Just checking: Is Orun's increase-capacity effect lingering, or is
> it triggered by the play of a card?
It affects how every card played by other Methsuelahs sees the Oruned vampire.
In that sense, it is lingering, just like every other card-in-play's effect.
Orun doesn't actually increase the vampire's capacity, though. So that effect,
which doesn't exist, isn't lingering, no.
> Example: The only cards that have been played in the game are
> (chronologically) my Cesewayo, my Orun on Cesewayo, and my prey's
> Karsh. Karsh attempts to enter combat with Cesewayo using his special
> (for some cardless reason, Cesewayo is tapped). Can Cesewayo play Wake
> with Evening's Freshness + Obedience?
No. The Obedience you play is not an Obedience played by another Methuselah.