Black Chantry: Preconstructed Decks Ravnos, Salubri, Tzimisce

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Re: Black Chantry: Preconstructed Decks Ravnos, Salubri, Tzimisce

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Und BCP hat jetzt ein Produktseiten für die 3 neuen Starter Decks online gestellt.
Die grösste Überraschung sind die "neuen" Clan-Diziplinen, die alle wohl VTM V5 Kanon sind, das hatte ich aber so nicht auf dem Schirm:
  • Ravnos: Animalism, Obfuscate, Presence
  • Salubri: Auspex, Dominate, Fortitude
  • Tzimisce: Animalism, Dominate, Protean
Darüber hinaus fehlt das "Scarce"-Schlüsselwort bei den Salubri. Macht aber auch Sinn, wenn man eine Clan-basierten Starter hat. Die Tremere werden das wohl nicht so mögen. ;)

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Re: Black Chantry: Preconstructed Decks Ravnos, Salubri, Tzimisce

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Fifth Edition: Ravnos

https://www.blackchantry.com/products/v ... on-ravnos/
The Ravnos are nomadic vampires, always staying one step ahead of the doom that lurks in their blood to preserve their lineage. These daredevils and tricksters seek risks in unlife and are often hired for espionage and sabotage, fitting well with their mastery of disguise and distraction.

This deck is about charm and misdirection. Your vampires use their powers of Obfuscate and Presence to distract and manipulate foes, undermining their power. For protection you rely on animal spies and guards, and yet more illusions to turn even the mightiest threat completely harmless.

This is a deck with 77 library cards and 12 crypt cards, ready for play out of the box or customizable with other Vampire: The Eternal Struggle cards. Each player needs a deck to play.

SKU: BCP040, FR040, ES040
Additional languages: French, Spanish
MSRP: £20 / €22 / $24

Contents are detailed below. The number before each card is the number of copies of that card in the deck.

Crypt (12)
1 Doc Martina (NEW)
1 Gathii (NEW)
1 Henrique Pasquale (NEW)
1 Jean-François (NEW)
1 Luciano Carvalho (NEW)
1 Oleg Kaprizov (NEW)
1 Phaibun (NEW)
1 Roy (NEW)
2 Sreelekha (NEW)
1 Trung Chau Pham (NEW)
1 Zafira (NEW)

Library (77)
1 Archon Investigation
3 Blood Doll
1 Club Illusion
1 Fortune Teller Shop
1 Garibaldi-Meucci Museum
1 Park Hunting Ground
1 Powerbase: Los Angeles
1 Week of Nightmares

8 Break the Bonds (NEW)
1 Entrancement

1 Shilmulo Tarot
1 Treasured Samadji

1 City Star Taxi
4 Feral Hound (NEW)

4 Cloak the Gathering
4 Lost in Crowds
4 Swallowed By the Night
3 Veil the Legions
4 Visions of Gehenna (NEW)

2 Pack Alpha
4 Majesty
2 Voracious Vermin (NEW)

4 Guard Dogs
4 Cats’ Guidance
4 On the Qui Vive
4 Protection Racket
4 Night Terrors (NEW)
4 Visions of Zapathasura (NEW)
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Re: Black Chantry: Preconstructed Decks Ravnos, Salubri, Tzimisce

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Fifth Edition: Salubri

https://www.blackchantry.com/products/v ... n-salubri/
The Salubri are warriors and healers who tread the path of Golconda – ultimate redemption from the Kindred curse. But with this path comes suspicion and persecution, as the power to heal brings with it the power to harm. They are both hunters and hunted in their pursuit of enlightenment.

This deck relies on vigilance and protection. Your vampires use their powers of Auspex to foresee enemy moves and Fortitude to make their bodies nigh-indestructible in combat. When the time is right, you launch upon your prey, using mind-swaying Dominate powers to damage your foes.

This is a deck with 77 library cards and 12 crypt cards, ready for play out of the box or customizable with other Vampire: The Eternal Struggle cards. Each player needs a deck to play.

SKU: BCP041, FR041, ES041
Additional languages: French, Spanish
MSRP: £20 / €22 / $24

Contents are detailed below. The number before each card is the number of copies of that card in the deck.

2 Abaddon (NEW)
1 Aniel (NEW)
1 Castellan (NEW)
1 Dominica (NEW)
1 Ilonka (NEW)
2 Malachi (NEW)
1 Opikun (NEW)
1 Sakhar (NEW)
1 Seraphina (NEW)
1 Yael (NEW)

1 Anarch Troublemaker
2 Blood Doll
1 Guardian Angel
1 KRCG News Radio
1 Meditative Grove (NEW)
1 Powerbase: Montreal
1 Saulot’s Avenging Fist (NEW)
1 Saulot’s Guiding Wisdom (NEW)
1 Saulot’s Healing Touch (NEW)
2 Vessel

4 Govern the Unaligned
4 Feast of the Soul’s Secrets (NEW)

1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Ivory Bow
1 Sword of the Archangel (NEW)

4 Bonding
4 Forced Confessional (NEW)
4 Freak Drive
2 Seduction
4 Unleashing the Bestial Soul (NEW)

3 Hidden Strength
3 Indomitability
2 Rolling with the Punches
3 Touch of Valeren (NEW)
4 Weighted Walking Stick

3 Deflection
2 Delaying Tactics
2 Eagle’s Sight
2 Enhanced Senses
4 Eyes of Argus
2 My Enemy’s Enemy
2 On the Qui Vive
4 Telepathic Misdirection
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Re: Black Chantry: Preconstructed Decks Ravnos, Salubri, Tzimisce

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Fifth Edition: Tzimisce

https://www.blackchantry.com/products/v ... -tzimisce/
The Tzimisce were once noble tyrants of Eastern Europe, but in modern nights they covet power worldwide. For them control is all. They aim to take what you thought was yours and then jealously guard their possessions like a dragon guards its hoard.

This deck is a versatile toolbox. Your vampires use mind-altering Dominate powers to gain influence and undermine opponents. In combat they can either turn into bats or mist to escape or rework their bodies into monstrous forms to seriously wreck their foes. For defense you rely on animal spies and hideous ghoul servants.

This is a deck with 77 library cards and 12 crypt cards, ready for play out of the box or customizable with other Vampire: The Eternal Struggle cards. Each player needs a deck to play.

SKU: BCP042, FR042, ES042
Additional languages: French, Spanish
MSRP: £20 / €22 / $24

Contents are detailed below. The number before each card is the number of copies of that card in the deck.

2 Adrino Manauara (NEW)
2 Ángel Guerrero (NEW)
2 Branimira (NEW)
1 Neserian (NEW)
1 Clara Hjortshøj (NEW)
1 Whisper (NEW)
1 Marialena (NEW)
1 Prentis Derby (NEW)
1 Susie Kano (NEW)

1 Anarch Revolt
1 Anarch Free Press, The
1 Barrens, The
3 Blood Doll
1 Haven Uncovered
1 Library Hunting Ground
1 Papillon
2 Piper

2 Childe of the Revolution
1 Constant Revolution
6 Govern the Unaligned

3 Revenant
1 Homunculus

2 Underbridge Stray
1 Vozhd of Sofia (NEW)
2 War Ghoul

1 Living Manse

3 Foreshadowing Destruction
3 Earth Control
3 Invigorate (NEW)

3 Form of Mist
2 Form of the Bat
4 Monstrous Form (NEW)
4 Obedient Flesh (NEW)
4 Sculpt the Flesh (NEW)

3 Bait and Switch
4 Cats’ Guidance
3 Deflection
4 One With the Land (NEW)
4 On the Qui Vive
3 Organized Resistance
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Ich finde es ganz furchtbar, dass jetzt so viel Dominate rumfällt. Boring. Kann BCP nichts dafür. Aber was soll denn der Quatsch, Paradox?
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Ich mein, ernsthaft? Ein Dominate Blockcancel? Are you nuts?
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Ist doch Clan-spezifisch, sollte also keine großen Auswirkungen haben :)
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Oracle.kid wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 08:36 Ist doch Clan-spezifisch, sollte also keine großen Auswirkungen haben :)
Na ja, es hat die Auswirkung, dass die neuen Salubri sowohl Seduction als auch Forced Confessional zur Verfügung haben.
Das ist sicherlich im Playtesting berücksichtigt worden, aber generell mächtig.
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Rudolf wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 09:02
Oracle.kid wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 08:36 Ist doch Clan-spezifisch, sollte also keine großen Auswirkungen haben :)
Na ja, es hat die Auswirkung, dass die neuen Salubri sowohl Seduction als auch Forced Confessional zur Verfügung haben.
Das ist sicherlich im Playtesting berücksichtigt worden, aber generell mächtig.
Und wenn du alte Salubri mit Dominate-Skillkarten spielst, hast du mit Repulsion festes Obeah-Stealth und Wege, mit Blutarmut (durch die teuren Dom-Karten) umzugehen mit Renewed Vigor.
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Männele wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 14:58
Rudolf wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 09:02
Oracle.kid wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 08:36 Ist doch Clan-spezifisch, sollte also keine großen Auswirkungen haben :)
Na ja, es hat die Auswirkung, dass die neuen Salubri sowohl Seduction als auch Forced Confessional zur Verfügung haben.
Das ist sicherlich im Playtesting berücksichtigt worden, aber generell mächtig.
Und wenn du alte Salubri mit Dominate-Skillkarten spielst, hast du mit Repulsion festes Obeah-Stealth und Wege, mit Blutarmut (durch die teuren Dom-Karten) umzugehen mit Renewed Vigor.
Sobald Skill-Karten beim Deckbau beteiligt sein müssen, halten sich meine Sorgen aufgrund der "(Too) many moving parts"-Problematik in Grenzen.
Ein entsprechendes stabil laufendes Deck würde ich erst einmal sehen wollen. Das aktuelle Meta lässt einem wenig Spielraum für Wagnisse.
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Diziplinskarten? Anfänger!

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Aus dem Vampire: Elder Kindred Network Newsletter September 2023
https://www.vekn.net/2-uncategorised/55 ... ember-2023
• The “preview season” for the next three Fifth Edition preconstructed decks is ongoing. The clans are Ravnos, Salubri and Tzimisce. Release date is not set, but hopefully in December. All previews are collected at these product pages:

- Fifth Edition Ravnos

- Fifth Edition Salubri

- Fifth Edition Tzimisce
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Re: Black Chantry: Preconstructed Decks Ravnos, Salubri, Tzimisce

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Teylen wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 16:49 Die Deckliste der Ravnos ist da:
Crypt (12)
1 Doc Martina (NEW)
1 Gathii (NEW)
1 Henrique Pasquale (NEW)
1 Jean-François (NEW)
1 Luciano Carvalho (NEW)
1 Oleg Kaprizov (NEW)
1 Phaibun (NEW)
1 Roy (NEW)
2 Sreelekha (NEW)
1 Trung Chau Pham (NEW)
1 Zafira (NEW)

Library (77)
1 Archon Investigation
3 Blood Doll
1 Club Illusion
1 Fortune Teller Shop
1 Garibaldi-Meucci Museum
1 Park Hunting Ground
1 Powerbase: Los Angeles
1 Week of Nightmares

8 Break the Bonds (NEW)
1 Entrancement

1 Shilmulo Tarot
1 Treasured Samadji

1 City Star Taxi
4 Feral Hound (NEW)

4 Cloak the Gathering
4 Lost in Crowds
4 Swallowed By the Night
3 Veil the Legions
4 Visions of Gehenna (NEW)

2 Pack Alpha
4 Majesty
2 Voracious Vermin (NEW)

4 Guard Dogs
4 Cats’ Guidance
4 On the Qui Vive
4 Protection Racket
4 Night Terrors (NEW)
4 Visions of Zapathasura (NEW)
Daneben gibt es auf der Seite 3 Vampire (Doc Martina, Zafira, Trung Chau Pham) und 1 Library Card (Night Terrors):
https://www.blackchantry.com/products/v ... on-ravnos/
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Teylen wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 16:49 Die Deckliste der Ravnos ist da:
Bitte beachte, dass all diese Information (inkl. der Bilder) schon oben im Thread stand....
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