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Alle Fragen zu Prisci Sub Referedum

Posted: 30 Nov 2011, 12:00
by Erol

Re: Alle Fragen zu Prisci Sub Referedum

Posted: 30 Nov 2011, 21:20
by Rudolf
Dankeschön! Ist ja nicht ganz unwichtig, sich mit den Stimmen der Prisci auszukennen ... :wink:

Re: Alle Fragen zu Prisci Sub Referedum

Posted: 01 Dec 2011, 12:27
by Johannes

Also zusammenfassend: Telepathic Vote Counting und Scalpel Tongue geht, aber PB: Madrid nicht.

Re: Alle Fragen zu Prisci Sub Referedum

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 17:21
by Azrael
Rules Team Rulings 02-DEC-11

As always, changes contained herein do not go into effect for sanctioned tournaments for 30 days. (So these become active on January 1st, 2012.)

Rulebook updates

:arrow: The Prisci block (6.3.3):
The prisci as a group have 3 votes. During a referendum, the prisci block of 3 votes is cast "for" or "against" the referendum according to the prisci subreferendum. Each ready priscus provides 1 ballot for this subreferendum, and votes may not be used in this subreferendum. Each ballot cast is either "for" or "against" the main referendum. Whichever side has the greater number of ballots in the subreferendum gains 3 votes in the main referendum. If the subreferendum is tied, the prisci block abstains from the main vote. As vampires cast their ballots in the subreferendum, the prisci block of 3 votes might shift between "for", "against", and "abstain" (as the majority in the subreferendum changes). A vampire must cast all of his votes and ballots in agreement.
Wir hatten die Frage erneut letzten Freitag, da ich nur Antworten aus 2006 gefunden habe. nochmal die Frage:
Wenn Gratiano Cardinal wird, ist er ja kein Priscus mehr, hat aber trotzdem eine Stimme im Prisci Subreferendum. Findet das Prisci Subreferendum statt, wenn kein Priscus am Tisch ist?

Re: Alle Fragen zu Prisci Sub Referedum

Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 07:22
by Erol
6.3.2. The Referendum

If a political action is successful, its cost is paid, and the referendum is called.

Some cards from older sets use the phrase "during a political action" to refer to the referendum part of the political action.

The referendum consists of three steps: setting the terms, polling (casting votes and ballots) and resolving the referendum.

1. Choose the terms, if any, of the referendum. Cards that are used "during a political action" but "before votes and ballots are cast" are used at this time (after the terms are set).
2. Polling. All Methuselahs may now cast any votes and ballots they have (see below) at this time, in any order. They call out their votes and ballots freely, and there is no obligation to cast votes or ballots. Once a vote or a ballot has been cast, however, it cannot be changed. The polling stage is completed only when all Methuselahs are finished casting votes and ballots (if you need a time limit, the players can agree to wait 15 seconds after the last vote or ballot cast to close the polling stage).
3. Resolve the referendum. If there are more votes for the referendum than against, the referendum passes, and the effects of the successful referendum take place. Otherwise, the referendum fails and has no effect. Tied referendums fail.

Re: Alle Fragen zu Prisci Sub Referedum

Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 07:46
by Azrael
Danke sehr, also hat sich nichts geändert und Gratiano darf seine 6 Stimmen haben. :)